Monday, March 28, 2011
Harper continues to Abuse Government of Canada Websites: Tory Platform aka "Budget 2011" gets a free ride at taxpayer expense
Fact is "No Confidence" Harpo and his band of contemptuous usurpers will leave this free advertising up for as long as they can get away with it. In my calls to members of the Public Service at the Finance Department today it was acknowledged that "somebody had brought this up this morning" - but as of yet they have had no clear directive to take the shameless partisan items down. They are awaiting guidance. Needless to say, Flaherty's minions at Finance will wait until the last possible moment to abide by the law before making a change.
Following my conversation with a poor and clearly besieged conscientious public servant (whose tone, if not words, conveyed awareness that this abuse is not proper), I then phoned CBC "Power & Politics" to convey my concern. A nice gent named Greg took my message and promised to forward it on... well let's see what Evan Solomon and Co. do with it today. Or like so many other blatant examples of the "Harper Government" abuses of Government of Canada websites will it fall through the cracks of the election cycle spin?
Bottom line, Harpo & Co. know this is wrong. The "Budget 2011" was never debated, it was never passed and it is NOT Canadian Government policy... why? Because his government was found in CONTEMPT for this very sort of behaviour. Enough is enough, no more taxpayer dollars for their partisan agenda.
Tuesday, March 22, 2011
Jack Layton says NO - Canada is to have a federal election ASAP!
So Harpo & Co. here ya go... an election we do have. Good riddance to ya!
Now, if only both the NDP and Liberal opposition parties can keep their eye on the ball and not become distracted by petty things. Gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines!
Monday, October 26, 2009
Not yet built: the Canadian Human Rights Museum is hiring?

Seems that despite all of the unresolved budgetary issues surrounding Winnipeg's ultimate vanity project, the Canadian Human Rights Museum, that its powers that be are actively seeking to hire historians. Weird. There's no building yet, no consensus on content, and no direction ... hmm, putting the cart before the horse? How are Asper & co. going to pay the salaries?
H-NET posting:
From: Discussion <discussion@historyofrights.
Date: Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Subject: Career Opportunities for Historians (human rights)
Hello,
I received a notice today about career opportunities for the forthcoming
Canadian Museum for Human Rights (Winnipeg). Some people on the listerv may
find this information interesting here¹s the link:
http://www.humanrightsmuseum.
Dominique Clément, PhD
www.HistoryOfRights.com
Assistant Professor
Department of Sociology, University of Alberta
5-21 Tory Building, Edmonton, AB, T6G2H4
Phone: 780-492-4316; Fax; 780-492-7196
dominique.clement@ualberta.ca
http://www.uofaweb.ualberta.
Thursday, February 12, 2009
"Friggin' Flaherty and his Fiscal Apocalypse": Daddy tell us a Horror Story pt.1
[as originally posted 01/30/09 on my formerly free thinking blog http://tworippingarseholes.blogspot.com ]
Year: 2016
Date: January 26th
Place: Winnipeg, Canada
Event: Federal Budget Day
Nearing dusk, wind-a-blowing. Crows swirl above. In the distance, along the frozen river, a group of TB enforcers (Tory-Bankers) are putting the boots to a Black Rod vainly trying to raise a tattered Canadian Flag with New-Afghanistan sprayed on it. He is, well, err... truly being boot-fucked. Unseen, the new media is filming the beat down as a destitute man with a notebook next to them licks yellow snow. Other passers-by are simply uninterested. Preferring instead to gawk at the street full of Harpo-Buggies. Horseshit is everywhere.
Two dirty wide-eyed emaciated innocents, a boy and girl, are shivering. Lightly clad, they are gripping their Daddy's hands tight. Together the three step off the northeastern side of the bridge and onto the icy and littered sidewalks. Across the street Great West Life's headquarters lie empty.
"Daddy, why they beatin' that man?" the blue-eyed boy asks.
"They call it 'knocking sense' son. Part of their three-pronged anti-critique reduction strategy: Knock-Kick-Kill. That's just a second warning. Probably the guy was asking too many questions."
"Daddy, what happens if he doesn't listen?" the boy asks.
"That!" the dad says pointing to the west, to a cross with a man nailed to it far down on the river ice. Above it, a huge placard with blood red letters proclaims:
'Poor guy,' the Dad thinks, 'his public eye now nuthin' but crow food.' Immediately, the father realizes the mistake. 'Too young for KKK' he chides himself, ... 'too young.' "Quickly," he says to his shocked children, "Quickly, now. We have to get there by eight."
As they walk they pass a man who's seen better days. Standing perfectly straight, he's mumbling over and over "Anybody want a Peanut? Anybody want a Peanut?" His hand is extended; it wants to complete the offer. Sadly, he has no peanuts? They've been taken away.
Across the street another indigent with an 'I Luv Bjork' sweater keeps bellowing at a dog that won't stop sniffing his ass: "This is Just Damn Stupid! Just Damn Stupid!" he's shouting, "That's it!" he exclaims, "I'm moving to Iceland!"
Looking on is a Conceited Jerk who can only grin as he holds his beloved Nadia. Mute for years now - he's but one of many. Once, back in 2009, all these men were able to offer digital peanuts. But since the Tory ban on public expression and private computers the only platforms now left are the cold, hard streets.
"Daddy are they the ones they tell us about in TB indoctrination classes?" they ask.
"Shhh." he hushes. Then whispering as he bends to their ears, he says "Yes, they're the ones. They've been caught. Censored. Remember, try not to draw attention."
Then, as he always does when here, the Dad glances at the tattered structure nearby. The man's eyes furtively dart upwards to its Dome. The Golden Boy is gone - Forever - long ago sold for a song to fund Doer's failed "Spirited Energy II" comeback campaign just before the streets started going dark at 8pm. Then a crazed-eyed manic man passes on a wobbly bicycle screaming: "Dual Flush Toilets! Dual Flush Toilets! Use them and they will turn our water back on! Use them now!"
"Daddy, is that true? If we use them will we have water for more than 2 hours a day?" the daughter asks.
"No child, first cities privatized their treatment plants. Then the Tories sold our national water rights away to NEW-USA in 2012 to 'fix' the structural deficit. Sorry honey, but we'll never get our rights back."
Just then they pass a bespectacled man with NO IKEA tattooed to his forehead. He's with a group of TRUWinnipegers and one Frog. Indignant all, they are shouting at a burning effigy. "Donkey Trams! Donkey Trams! Pol Pot Katz - what kind of Progressive LRT is this?"
"Daddy, can they do that?" they ask pointing to the solid pile of horseshit and ad hominems that form the effigy labeled 'Mayor.'
"Well they can - until the blackshirts come." he replies as they turn the corner where they pass a downtrodden dude singing the city anthem.
Proceeding east, they look to the right. The steps of the Legislature are, as usual, lightly populated with haggard protesters. Also, as usual, the protesters are outnumbered by the TB crowd controllers. Bemused, the security forces are laughing at the forlorn assemblage. The Legislature's doors are chained shut. "Prorogued" they call it. One indignant Hacking Wonk can be heard screaming: "This is not the way it was supposed to be! I was lied to." Just then, a balding wee-Hughie looks down from a window above. Laughing maniacally, he screams back: "You think you've got it bad - I'm actually in charge of this NUTHOUSE now!"
Crossing the main buggy entrance they see a shovel ready ranting man moving horse crap - all the while exclaiming to no one in particular: "My soul for a forum; my soul for a forum!"
Nearby a former idea planter is listening to an underground radio station on an old transistor radio. One can hear the voices. It's a show about Harpo's new law allowing his acolytes to shot unrepentant Lib's & Dippers on sight. The debate includes that crazed self-professed elder statesman and a partisan post-punker who actually claims to know what jailed Iggy is really thinking! Further on, a man full of love and hate is taking a picture of a pot-smoking one-eyed pecker pissing on a newly erected statue of Friggin' Dim Jim Flaherty. (The ninth such 'national' statue erected since his appointment as the State's Minister of Truth.)
At the next corner, a displaced poetess waiting for the moon is waxing about an 'Unravelling' that came too soon.
"Daddy, her words are beautiful, is she new?" the daughter asks.
"Yeah, I guess. You see after all the Territories flooded from the Arctic ice-melt in 13', these people had to find new homes," he says. Then, seeing some blackshirts approaching, he says gently, but firmly, "Hurry up kids, hurry up... we'll be late."
[To be continued....]
5 comments:
Budget 2009: In search of Friggin' Flaherty's Poison Pill?
"The money power preys upon the nation in times of peace and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy."
[President Abraham Lincoln - 1863]
[John Kenneth Galbraith, Money: Whence it came. 1975, p29.]
[Rep. Stephen Cohen (D) - January 2009]
Does anyone remember our friggin' Finance Minister Flaherty telling us last October how our "High banking standards have kept Canada's financial institutions afloat and out of the kind of trouble that has sunk many of their international peers"? Anyone??
Well, fellow travelers, a lot has changed since then. As such, We Two Arseholes are taking a look back in order to divine what may be about to smack us upside our collective heads in Dim Jim's upcoming Budget. Now, we are not going to dwell on the gum-flapping moron's infamous fall declaration saying there would "be no deficit on his watch, even on a temporary basis". Face it, this week's confirmation by the Tories that they will run a $64-billion deficit over next two years shows they were always lying on this count.
No, what we are talking about is the salient part of that day's story; the positive part, the reassuring part - the truthful part. You see, in October, Dim Jim was lauding Ottawa's strong regulatory system as the prime reason our "banking industry [was] more secure than financial sectors in the United States". And, for once, he was right. Compared to other G-8 countries, our prudent banking rules have been instrumental in insulating us from the fiscal nadir and bankruptcies others are experiencing. And today?
What of today?
Well now it seems Harpo & co. are about to undo that which has spared us from the horror show we are witnessing in the US, to wit:
(a) Her Majesty in right of Canada or of a province or any agent or agency of Her Majesty and in either of those rights; or
(b) the government of a foreign country or any political subdivision of a foreign country, or any agent or agency of a foreign government.
Now, in true Orwellian fashion, we are being told to buy into the new Bizarro-Harpo-Vision - to see the world anew. Now, what once was good - is bad; and what once was strong and true about Section 401.2 - is now, apparently, weak and false. You see, Dim Jim has now been told by Harpo: "You don't believe in the merits of strict regulations barring foreign ownership of our banks anymore. No Simple Jim, what you now believe is something else altogether different."
"Huh, boss?" Jim dithers as he asks, "say that again?"
"Well, you see Jimbo, we've decided you are no longer a staunch defender of Canada's current 'high banking standards' that bar other countries from buying up our banks. In fact, you are now to say that Section 401.2 is a barrier to recovery. Got it?" Dim Jim nods. "And you are going to reaffirm that we will buy up $75-billion or so of Canadian bank mortgages with Canadian tax dollars."
So why are the Tories going to gut our banking regulations during this crisis? Well, the answer to that is simple: the greed of Canadian bankers knows no bounds and Tory desperation knows no limits. In short, Harpo would rather appease Canada's usury bankers who want to play Russian Roulette with our tax dollars than stand up for the the ideal that our banking industry should be sovereign and free from undue foreign influence.
Canadian Bankers, sense they can use Canada's collective 'sky-is-falling' angst to their advantage. They are preying on the insecurity of the consumer as they seek to proffer a Grand Narrative which argues for access to new capital investment from anywhere and everywhere - even if it comes from the same foreign fiscal interests who got us in this mess to begin with. Place this greed imperative in the same room with Harpo's politically reptilian impulse to survive at all costs; and what we have is every likelihood that the Banker's will get what their amoral-dividend-seeking-hearts desire most - even more Canadian tax dollars on Tuesday, with the added bonus of now being allowed to access untapped capital from sovereign wealth funds.
You see, thanks to Harpo & co.'s December brain-fart, the banks have come to realize that they are the one's truly in the driver's seat on the economy. And, as such, they have decided to force Ottawa to think the unthinkable, to allow the un-allowable, and to endorse the reprehensible: To repeal Section 401.2 to facilitate foreign purchases of Canadian domestic bank stock; thereby doing away with the very safeguard that helped shield Canada's institutions from the virus plaguing other western banks. What they want, amid the confluence of today's stress, strain and panic, is to forge is an unholy union with the very capital markets that wrought the current plague. 'But Arseholes," you say, "how can you possibly know this?"
Well, this week, as the entire world was focused on Obama's Inauguration, a little-big story entitled: "Rule change would allow Ottawa to buy bank stock" appeared in the Report On Business. Quoting Friggin' Flaherty, it highlighted what Harpo & co. really want to do is to change "little-known rules that prevent governments from owning shares of Canadian banks and insurers". A move, incidentally, that would allow Ottawa "to inject capital into banks ... [and] make it easier for Canadian financial institutions to pull off foreign takeovers, and ease the way for sovereign wealth funds to invest in institutions here." Hmmm, We Two Arses wondered? Why would Harpo & co. do this now? Given present global market conditions this doesn't sound like a very desirable state of affairs for the Canadian tax-payer or depositor . Hmmm.....
Well, we read here that recommendations generated by Finance Minister Jim Flaherty's "working group made up of officials from the chartered banks, government and Crown lenders" to fix the commercial paper market are likely "to find their way into Tuesday's budget." Hmmm... interesting? Does anybody else wonder if these recommendations might include a move to repeal Section 401.2? Might this be the poison pill Flaherty is going to bury in the textual ass of next Tuesday's budget?
Hmmm? Are we crazy?
Maybe not. When the President of the Canadian Banker's Association (CBA), Nancy Hughes Anthony scolded the Globe & Mail in November for missing the point in its story "Ottawa Bows To Banks To Keep Credit Flowing", she wrote "The real headline is that both the banks and the federal government share a common goal and continue to co-operate to find solutions that are in the best interests of Canadians". Hmmm, but maybe she neglected to tell us everything about the 'solutions" the CBA were advancing. Maybe, what she meant to say is: the CBA would only play ball if it was promised that those "solutions" included new provisions for access to foreign capital investment. Maybe, the fact is that Canadian bankers have been slow to vociferously back the Tory stimulus scheme because they want Harpo's parrot, Friggin' Flaherty, to first grant rule changes that would give Canadian Banks unfettered access to what they see as a cash infusion bonanza from foreign governments.
Maybe, this is the price the CBA has exacted from Harpo & co. in order to be seen as onside with the Tory's massive new 'stimulus' programme. Could it be that Friggin' Flaherty is willing to sell out Canadian taxpayers and depositors at this time because Canadian bankers have made regulatory change the price for their full participation in Harpo's recovery scheme?
Oh, Harpo, say it ain't so! Say it loud and say it in the Budget.
But, alas, We Two Arseholes fear that, in fact, Friggin' Flaherty and Harpo have already made the deal. We fear there is every chance that a formal announcement of Ottawa's intent to change the regulatory laws will be this Budget's poison pill.
So let's recap and posit. Our Bank Act currently prohibits “the government of a foreign country or any political subdivision of a foreign country, or any agent or agency of a foreign government” from owning shares in any Canadian bank. Okay, seems like sound policy to us. After all, who wants foreign governments having any say in how much capital OUR BANKS can, or, cannot lend to OUR business and consumer sectors. And who wants foreign interests influencing, or, having a direct hand in setting what OUR domestic banks set as their prime-lending rates? Certainly not us. Bad enough that Flaherty has already spent $33-billion of our tax dollars to buy up Canadian mortgages and plans to "buy up as much as $75-billion" overall to "free up" lending capital for Canadian Banks? Do we really want offshore sovereign wealth funds having a say in the amassing of more such mortgages just so they can then turn around and sell them to OUR federal government to improve THEIR stockholder value? No.
Ironically, the $33-billion Friggin' Flaherty has already spent is equal to the size of the announced deficit for this budget. But nobody is talking about this. Nobody seems to see a problem here. We mean, what else does our government have to do for our "sound banking system" in the current crisis? Must Ottawa now start buying stock? Jesuz-Christos! You'd figure that committing $75-billion Canadian tax-dollars to purchase the bank's mortgage holdings would be enough of a stimulus for the industry - no? Also, you'd figure that foreign investors in Canadian banks should be barred from benefiting from this questionable use of OUR tax dollars. No?
Now it might well be that what our banks really want is to secure our tax dollars because they will help "make it easier for the country’s banks and insurers to make foreign acquisitions". Even if this is the case, the whole premise seems like folly to us. Speculating on and purchasing stock in 'cheap' US banks when their domestic market is in the toilet hardly seems in to be in the best interests of the average Canadian. The only group served by this action would be our Bankers. While their portfolios would be enhanced - it would hold little upside for the rest of us.
As an editorial in this weekend's The Daily Observer noted the Tories are about to give Canada "a budget that will be a full course meal for the banks and industry, with the average taxpayers getting the table scraps." To save his own skin, Harpo is about "raid the piggy bank, mortgage our future then give it to the very people who have put us in this mess to begin with." Egad, what will it take to save Canadian's from this fate - a second coming?
Hell, if the repeal of Section 401.2 does indeed show up as the poison pill in Tuesday's Budget, we hope that Friggin' Flaherty shows up in the House with a halo and beard to match his new pair of sandals, because he is not only going to have to turn an awful lot of water into wine to get us to swallow it. He's also going to have to walk on the water to get us to believe it!!
[** n.b. Since reading the original ROB story on Tuesday last, I (Fat Arse) have made numerous calls to various organizations trying to ascertain their views on a 'poison pill'. Regrettably, it has been impossible to get a formal response from either the national NDP or LPC party offices in this regard. I did have a nice conversation with a NDP 'caucus office(?)' employee who took notes and promised to get back to me on Friday - but he never did. As for the LPC, on Wednesday morning I was directed to talk with Mr. Lauzon about the matter. Despite leaving numerous messages asking if either he, or his subordinate, could clarify the Liberal position on any poison pill in the Budget surrounding foreign ownership of Canada's Banks - my calls were not returned. However, I would like to thank the very professional and engaging media chap at the Canadian Bankers Association who took the time to answer my questions and helped direct me to the appropriate places on their website to research their public pronouncements since October - thanks Andrew.]
Coming posts?:
Monday: "How the CBA pressured Harpo to force Flaherty to suck on their Grand Narrative.";
Wednesday: "Friggin' Flaherty and The Making of a Fiscal Apocalypse."
19 comments:
- Mr. Nobody said...
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Troubling topic in so much that its being contemplated and the relative silence of most everyone. Puzzled me how this news isn't well documented. Even friends of mine in the financial industry were unaware when I broached the subject a few weeks ago.
GLobe and Mail ran a story on jan 20. Was disconcerting to see answers about why this should happen. like a setup was in the works.
Needless to say, Canadian bank stocks are down huge, with many financial blogs recommending shorting the stocks in early December.
And that idiot Adler thinks everything is peachy and everyone who is worried should have their heads examined. - January 25, 2009 6:52 AM
- Mr. Nobody said...
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Good article by the way. More people need to understand why they all of a sudden own their neighbours mortgage.
One more thing, if you can, explain who is going to collect the mortgages for the feds ( banks you think )?
And if they will collect them, whats their take ? - January 25, 2009 6:55 AM
- Fat Arse said...
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@ Mr. Nobody,
The entire government purchasing of mortgages seems specious to me. I am sure the banks have included in the sale price a "bundling fee", a transfer fee, and to oversee the management of the 'new' paper I am sure that they are also charging an admin fee. Reason I say this is I do not believe Canada Mortgage and Housing has anywhere near the capacity to properly administer all the new paper they are being saddled with. Have sound reason to think we are in for some mortgage horror stories in the next few years.
Other part of this equation that troubles me is that nobody seems to be under any obligation to inform the homeowner when the STATE (i.e. his own government) becomes the de-facto holder of his mortgage. If it was me I would want to know - I would also want to know why "my paper" was bundled as opposed to that of my neighbour. What is the formula the Bank are using to determine which mortgages they sell to Ottawa - are they only saddling the government with the riskiest of the lot? - January 25, 2009 12:42 PM
- 900 ft Jesus said...
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wow! Chilling. Good research, really good.
I really hope th reason you couldn't get a response from the Libs or NDP is a question of strategy on their part - timing, waiting to use a counter response as ammo to oppose the budget, and that they won't allow this.
I think you're right on this one. It's certainly more serious and long reaching than anything I thought of. - January 25, 2009 1:33 PM
- Fat Arse said...
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Jesus,
I hope your right re: Lib reason for not responding. In my messagers I made it absolutely crystal clear what my specific concern was - but I fear the Lib's especially have not considered this "poison pill' possibility.
Really hope they can craft a succinct and needed defense of our economic sovereignty should Harpo & co. put this 'pill' in the Budget. To have this pass would cripple our autonomy completely. - January 25, 2009 1:42 PM
- Anonymous said...
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I'm confused. McCallum is the finance critic and he has been advocating for removal of the ownership restrictions for years. Does anyone know what Iggy's position is?
- January 25, 2009 2:20 PM
- Paul Fraser said...
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RBC Bank President Gordon Nixon - Salary $11.73 Million
$100,000 - MISTAKE (FISHERMEN'S LOAN)
I'm a commercial fisherman fighting the Royal Bank of Canada (RBC Bank) over a $100,000 loan mistake. I lost my home, fishing vessel and equipment. Help me fight this corporate bully by closing your RBC Bank account.
There was no monthly interest payment date or amount of interest payable per month on my loan agreement. Date of first installment payment (Principal + interest) is approximately 1 year from the signing of my contract.
Demand loan agreements signed by other fishermen around the same time disclosed monthly interest payment dates and interest amounts payable per month.The lending policy for fishermen did change at RBC from one payment (principal + interest) per year for fishing loans to principal paid yearly with interest paid monthly. This lending practice was in place when I approached RBC.
Only problem is the loans officer was a replacement who wasn't familiar with these type of loans. She never informed me verbally or in writing about this new criteria.
Phone or e-mail:
RBC President, Gordon Nixon, Toronto (416)974-6415
RBC Vice President, Sales, Anne Lockie, Toronto (416)974-6821
RBC President, Atlantic Provinces, Greg Grice (902)421-8112 mail to:greg.grice@rbc.com
RBC Manager, Cape Breton/Eastern Nova Scotia, Jerry Rankin (902)567-8600
RBC Vice President, Atlantic Provinces, Brian Conway (902)491-4302 mail to:brian.conway@rbc.com
RBC Vice President, Halifax Region, Tammy Holland (902)421-8112 mail to:tammy.holland@rbc.com
RBC Senior Manager, Media & Public Relations, Beja Rodeck (416)974-5506 mail to:beja.rodeck@rbc.com
RBC Ombudsman, Wendy Knight, Toronto, Ontario 1-800-769-2542 mail to:ombudsman@rbc.com
Ombudsman for Banking Services & Investments, JoAnne Olafson, Toronto, 1-888-451-4519 mail to:ombudsman@obsi.ca
http://www.pfraser.blogspot.com
http://www.corporatebully.ca
http://www.youtube.com/CORPORATEBULLY
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17877
"Fighting the Royal Bank of Canada (RBC Bank) one customer at a time" - January 25, 2009 2:33 PM
- Mr. Nobody said...
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I too am hopeful the opposition is waiting to pounce.
Somehow I don't think so, this news has been out for enough time for somebody to scream bloody murder.
Perhaps FA, your post will generate some phone calls and emailing. Its the best we can do.
Sorry to hear about your predicament on the loan there buddy. Perhaps best to contact the leprechaun directly. Hopefully he remembers what it means to be common. - January 25, 2009 2:56 PM
- Fat Arse said...
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@ Anon,
I did try to get an official response on this from the LPC (many times). As for Tipsy John's take on the issue - yes I am aware of his stance. However, he is not only wrong on this point - he is not the leader of the party. While I respect McCallum's insight on many economic issues - Iggy is the one to set the policy. Let us pray he sets the right course! - January 25, 2009 2:58 PM
- Mr. Nobody said...
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The issue of foreign investment shouldn't be confused with the mortgage issue. Like allowing bank mergers, foreign investment commentary has gone on for some time.
- January 25, 2009 3:02 PM
- Mr. Nobody said...
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This is going from worse to worse. We definitely can learn from the US experience.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/25/pelosi-open-to-more-feder_n_160653.html
unless they are hiding something from us, like our Banks aren't as secure as we think. - January 25, 2009 8:03 PM
- The draft Theresa Oswald team said...
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Hmm, will there be a poison pill? I wouldnt be so sure...
And is the coalition option dead? We're not sure how we feel about this.
It would be great to have seats at the cabinet table in a federal government, but on the other hand it might complicate things for us here in Manitoba...
Doer and his ministers (**cough **cough OSWALD) have strong working relationships with the Feds. Its a reality thats sad but true to win votes. Is it worth the risk of alienating the Manitoba voters we need to keep us in power? - January 26, 2009 3:24 PM
- cherenkov said...
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Arse,
There are a lot of if's and suppositions in there. Let me bring things back down to earth for a sec:
>The government not necessarily looking at opening up the banking system to foreign government ownership.
>The rules do not prohibit ownership by private foreign banks.
>A foreign take-over of a vital Canadian business is subject to review and could be prevented, as was recently the case with that aerospace company.
>Canadian banks are now prohibited from buying interest with in many foreign banks in a deal that involves stock, meaning that their hands are being tied which prevents them from growing and taking advantage of opportunities that could be beneficial to shareholders.
>Even if the foreign ownership rules are relaxed they could be done so in a way to prevent foreign control of Canadian banks.
In other words, nothing here foretells the end of the world. - January 26, 2009 9:55 PM
- Fat Arse said...
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@Cherenkov,
Your points are taken. I may not agree - but they are taken. I know my post has some hyperbole (but then again isn't there always). Yet, as it was explained to me, if Canadian Banks want the right to buy into US Banks (via stock swaps) then they too must be open to the foreign government ownership ownership. Apparently this is a no-ands-ifs-or-buts criteria. Otherwise, the US government will not permit the deal with any bank now getting bail-out funds from the US Fed.
As for rule changes that would mitigate against undue foreign control over an institution - yes, possible. But, once our institutions get a taste of the cash infusion from sovereign funds from abroad... all bets are off. They will do all their thinking with their little short-term heads rather than with the long-term heads.
Further, I want no provision for any government anywhere to own our bank stocks - not even the Cdn gvt. Too many variables that can go awry.
The argument the CBA is making in favour of the section 401.2 rule change is predicated on their playing up the current credit-crunch (both myth and truth)- but that is another story.... - January 27, 2009 12:23 AM
- Anonymous said...
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Nothing new here. The Canadian Banking Industry is only interested in consolidating profit. Not in consolidating the country's economy.
- January 27, 2009 12:41 AM
- Mr. Nobody said...
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And the waters have been muddied and it shall all be lost in the translation.
70 Billion taxpayers money transferred to banks. Yippeeeyihosed - January 27, 2009 2:47 AM
- cherenkov said...
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Yes, it's never a good idea to do all your thinking with your little head. I did have a good time reading your post, FA, although the length of it almost scared me off.
- January 27, 2009 7:54 AM
- Fat Arse said...
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@Cherenkov,
re: my lack of brevity - tis an affliction!
Hopefully you'll find new post less taxing? - January 27, 2009 10:13 AM
- Smart Arse said...
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@ Draft Oswald,
Looks to us like you are actually *very sure how you feel* about the coalition and cozying up to Harpo & co.
Where we come from, ambivalence and “regret” over sacrificing principles for political expediency aren’t quite the same thing really.
Still, we are glad to know that you are familiar (cough, cough) with the principles that you are trampling. - January 27, 2009 4:49 PM
I have always found this blog a great read, but with this post, you have crossed the Rubicon in terms of transcendent originality. Ripping fantastic!
Ha! You guys are crazy! Love it!
Maybe what we need is some good post-apocalyptic chaos to separate the strong from the week and get human evolution back on track!
Nice. I've always thought of doing a blog post that would stand as a trail guide to the Manitoba blog scene. You've done me one better!
Jesus!
And I thought my outlook was bleak...
Can't wait for part II!